"I have only wore these once and these are awesome, i went 4 out of 5 stars because i don't know the durability of the pant yet. They seem well built and love the material, they remind me a bit of Carhartt and Duluth firehose pants, a bit more like Duluth because these have some stretch to them . Since i have very large thighs and calves i sized up just to be safe but i think i could of easily went to my normal size and still be comfortable . I appreciate the top loading pocket for the knee pads much better than most other brands and since i haven't used them at work yet , i did throw them in the pocket and gave them a trial run and have to say very soft and comfy. If you are anything like me and don't work on your knees all day just once in a while inserts are a great option compared to external pads that may or may not get bothersome , especially with straps digging into the back of the knees."