ok! I ordered these almost 4 months ago. I'm retired and always in the shop or out in the yard, so I've been wearing them about 5 days a week. haha. I really do like them. They have a nice stretch, but not too much. Everything is holding up well. the fit is great. I love the knee pad pockets. I have no complaints and am buying a few more pairs so I don't have to wash these so much.